Workaround for the CP6 Trip Time bug

KenS · Regular Visitor Joined: Oct 25, 2004 Posts: 73

The source of the problem is in the gpstrip.trp file located in folder \SD Card\COPILOT\SAVE
The 3rd last line says:
DefRoadSpeeds=010101010101010101010101010101010101
which means that the deault road speed for all road types is 1mph

By copying the equivalent line from DEFTRIP.DAT in folder \SD Card\COPILOT\DATACD fixes the problem temporarily at least. Alternatively replace the offending line with the following:
DefRoadSpeeds=014141372D05231E140137371E14050F190A

This is just a temporary workaround as I found a sequence of events that caused the file to reset. Something to do with choosing the Basic routing option but subsequent tests have not been able to reproduce that particular problem.

Hopefully ALK will fix this bug in the first patch
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--Ken

HP iPAQ h2210 ROM 1.10.07 ENG
Windows CE 4.20
Sandisk Ultra II SD 512Mb
Haicom 303MMF and BT-401 slipper
Copilot Live 6.0.0.68

KenS · Regular Visitor Joined: Oct 25, 2004 Posts: 73

I have just completed some comprehensive research into this problem. I have also found that a whole series of bugs stem from files usertrip.dat and userstop.dat being created empty. These are located in \SD Card\COPILOT\SAVE. Using Activesync or a card reader check whether these files show up with a size of 0 bytes. If they are then you have the dreaded 1mph problem.

There is a specific sequence of commands which causes these files to be created empty but once fixed they appear to be fixed for good. This explains why some users have encountered the problem and others have not.

So now to the fix:
Start Copilot
Select Menu > Trip > Settings
Select Routing
Click Advanced
Select the Default profile
Click OK
Select Menu > Quit Copilot

Using Activesync or a Card Reader: Delete the empty usertrip.dat and userstop.dat in \SD Card\COPILOT\SAVE
Restart Copilot
Select Menu > Trip > Settings
Select Routing
Click Basic
Change the London Congestion Zone Warning (Check if unchecked or uncheck if checked as any change will force Copilot to recreate the files)
Click OK
Select Routing
Restore London Congestion Zone Warning (Back to your preferred value)
Click OK
Select Menu > Quit Copilot

Using Activesync or a card reader: Confirm that gpstrip.trp, usertrip.dat and userstop.dat have been created and are not empty.
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--Ken

HP iPAQ h2210 ROM 1.10.07 ENG
Windows CE 4.20
Sandisk Ultra II SD 512Mb
Haicom 303MMF and BT-401 slipper
Copilot Live 6.0.0.68

PONDEROUS · Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject:

Sterling work there by KenS!!

Without taking anything aways from KenS, I have to say that it never ceases to perplex me that ALK must have known about this bug, which KenS has apparently proved to be fixable very easily, but they have left it to him to come up with a fix. This is all the more surprising when their technical support staff have intervened on another thread concerning postcode/mapping/database errors.

If Copilot is to assume the market position that many of us wish it could have, then all the work cannot be left to users.
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Dell Axims X50v & X30 (both WM 2003 2nd Edition). Copilot BTGPS3 and Fortuna Clip-on BT receivers. Jabra BT 250 audio headsets. Welltech 40032/AF32 BT handsfree audio. Copilot 6.0.4.110. TomTom Navigator 5.21. MS Autoroute/Pocket Streets 2005

PhilB · Lifetime Member Joined: Nov 26, 2004 Posts: 83

KenS · Regular Visitor Joined: Oct 25, 2004 Posts: 73

PhilB · Lifetime Member Joined: Nov 26, 2004 Posts: 83

Hi Ken,
Thanks, I did check the other files and all seemed to be valid. I'm going out later this morning so will take another look and then I'm off for a long trip this arvo - back to work - so will have a chance to check it out, won't be back until next weekend.

I've been in computer development for over 30 years and agree with you that there is no excuse for obvious bugs. I can't believe these basic bugs weren't picked up by the beta testers we heard so much about.

xw · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 7

Hi, Ken,

I'm a developer from ALK. I was pointed to this forum by ALK tech support. This bug is fixed on version 6.0.1. It will not loading usertrip.dat if its size is 0, instead it will load the deftrip.dat

However, I would really like to know the sequence that cause the usertrip.dat and userstop.dat to be created as size 0.

Could you please let me know?

Thanks!
Xindong

neil01 · Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject:

PONDEROUS · Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject:

Neil01 writes that:

xw · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 7

For the bug, I mean some people get speed limit on the street to be 1mph, which leads to incorrect ETA.

PONDEROUS · Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject:

xw

Sorry, I was being pedantic. KenS had already made it clear what the bug under discussion was. Funnily, though, you make no mention of where this CP 6.0.1... can be found???
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Dell Axims X50v & X30 (both WM 2003 2nd Edition). Copilot BTGPS3 and Fortuna Clip-on BT receivers. Jabra BT 250 audio headsets. Welltech 40032/AF32 BT handsfree audio. Copilot 6.0.4.110. TomTom Navigator 5.21. MS Autoroute/Pocket Streets 2005

KenS · Regular Visitor Joined: Oct 25, 2004 Posts: 73

dpdurst · Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:22 pm Post subject:

I'm really amazzed that people think a patch is an overnight thing and just becuase one is mentioned it should be released. It is prudent that it may well be done, but its possible the are going to double check to verify what is talked about is really fixed. And better yet maybe its fixed in 6.0.1 but there are other things that the patch is waiting for... either way, to think a patch is going to be released overnight (at least that is how its being read, yet may not be the intention) is just wrong ---

xw · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 7

Maybe I shouldn't mention 6.0.1. Anyway I think ALK should and will post a patch for this bug. I would encourage you to ask ALK UK tech support.

Ken, I only have 6.0.0.77 at hand right now, I remove the usertrip.dat and userstop.dat file in my sd card, install the app, activate the license,
click settings->Map->KM->OK, then quit CoPilot. But I have no luck getting the two files as size 0. I'll try to get 6.0.0.68 and do it again.

Can someone having 6.0.0.77 do a quick check? Thank you very much!

KenS · Regular Visitor Joined: Oct 25, 2004 Posts: 73

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