Navigon 5 - UK TMC?

huey · Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: Navigon 5 - UK TMC?

Received Navigon 5 last night and happily loaded it all up (easy process only took a few minutes).

However, when using it although it locks on to the correct TMC radio signal (Classic FM) it is, seemingly, not receiving any data. I checked with a friend of mine who does a similar route in and he received quite a few messages on his version 4 pda.

I also have the Y adaptor for the radio so signal strength was not a problem.

I have sent an email to Navigon support and will copy in their response. Just wondering if they have disabled TMC support for the UK.

Has anyone else got the new software yet and how are you getting on?

gmoorc · Occasional Visitor Joined: May 16, 2005 Posts: 50

Hi,
I posted this very question on the gpspassion forums a little while ago.

"GPSPASSION" called a contact at Navigon who confirmed that they had not included the UK TMC codes in MN5 as they could not reach an agreement.
You may have confirmed this bit of info if you cannot receieve the messages Sad

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28809

I think that was the only RDS service in the UK for PDA's ?

Any first impressions on the software? How does it compare to 4?

Hopefully we will see a review soon

Dog_Boy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 29, 2004 Posts: 6

Well that rules me out of buying or upgrading to 5.

I bought the TMC reciever with Nav 4 and I'll be damned if I'm going to waste all that money just because Navigon are money hungry.

They are charging so much more for this version and it has important features like TMC missging? Shove it I say.

Petekk · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 06, 2004 Posts: 137

Reading the thread with interest.

Have just read the gpspassion site, and was going to post here - but you beat me to it.

I to was using I was using TT3 (and very happy with it), however I wanted a TMC option and prefer the RDS route (my mobile network does not support GPRS) and so took the Navigon MN4 route (with the intention to upgrade to MN5)

I am (I am sure we all are) very suprised to hear that MN5 does no longer support TMC in the UK. Navigon does not use GPRS only RDS, this gives the software no TMC at all in the UK. How can anyone call this an upgrade?

I also note that the sell MN5 on the navigon site (with UK maps) with no mention that TMC is not supported in the UK. Indeed the site is misleading and most certainly suggests that GB is included as the FAQ states:

Can I still use my old GPS Receiver with MN|5?
Yes, all GPS receivers offered by NAVIGON so far (including those with TMC) can be used with MN|5 as well as all other GPS receivers that are NMEA compatibel and transmit VTG and GGA signals. This is expected to be a standard with almost any receiver available and can be checked at the producer's website.

In what countries is TMC reception possible?
The following countries currently offer TMC:

Germany
Denmark
Sweden
Finland
Great Britain
Belgium
The Netherlands
Austria
Switzerland
France
Italy
Spain
The following countries are planning to introduce TMC in the near future:

Hungary
Czech Republic
Portugal
More countries are expected to follow later.

It does appear however this this information is correct (www.pocketgpsworld.com) and TMC is NOT supported!

Petekk · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 06, 2004 Posts: 137

gmoorc · Occasional Visitor Joined: May 16, 2005 Posts: 50

I have tried to confirm this with Navigon with more than one email however have had no reply so far.
I was hoping to buy some nav software in the near future and was set on MN5 so this was a bit of a blow.
Not sure why the PDA software companies have trouble coming to an arrangement with ITIS. Quite a few factory fit systems have the TMC data disks.

Maybe Alturion will be able to strike a deal and give us another option. I think that was mentioned as a possibilty in the review on this site. At least if that happens you may still be able to use the Navigon receiver etc.

Petekk · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 06, 2004 Posts: 137

Petekk · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 06, 2004 Posts: 137

On the Gpspassion site, the adminstrator seems to have a contact at Navigon (and reported the lack of TMC)

I posted on the gps passion site and asked

chris_w · Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject:

I'm just a little concerned that Navigon seem to think it's OK to sell people an upgrade in the UK with a significant part of the system missing - Without telling people.

They are still advertising TMC in the UK as supported on their website.

I have now had 5 GPS systems and I have found MN4 the least reliable of the lot - perhaps I've been spoilt with the likes of Garmin. At least when I switched my Streetpilot on I knew it would work first time.

If this TMC discussion is true (and I have no reason to think it isn't) Navigon have just :-

1. Hiked the price of map data into the ridiculous.
2. Failed to deliver a significant part of their product in the UK and haven't exactly been open about it.
3. Removed Mapexport from the offering.

As far as I'm concerned this is the icing on the cake with Navigon - I'm looking for something else .

Petekk · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 06, 2004 Posts: 137

sas-boy · Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject: Navigon

I have tried to confirm that the TMC is working in the UK with Navigon with more than five emails however, have had no reply so far.
i have been set on MN5 for so long this is abit of a blow if TMC is not working in the UK as it was the main reason for me buying it, still waiting after six week for delivery not happy.

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