IPAQ 6515 and TT5 Problems..Please help

sunny70 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 13, 2005 Posts: 2

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I bought a Hp Ipaq 6515. First it did not ocme with TomTom 5 navigatoe as advertised. Got no reply from TT support..so had to buy tt5. I have installed alongwith maps. To my , the device does not work. The TT5 starts properly but after displsays NO GPS Device. I have done all possible things from this forum. But still having problems.
When I start Bluetooth Explorer it does not locate the GPS received where Pocekt Serier GPS works fine and locates the all Satellites,
I have another application, on which GPS runs perfectly; but when I start TT doen not work ( even though other prgrams are shut down completely).

I would be greatful, if someone could please guide or advice me.

Thanks in advance
Sunny

peterc10 · Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject:

Bit confused by this as the 6515 in the UK comes with TT installed - although I think it is version 4. Also the 6515 has a built in sat nav receiver so should not have to communicate with it via bluetooth. Try another setting for receiver in TT5 - wired receiver maybe?

tomo1340 · Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject:

the 6515 does come with an inbuilt gps receiver and when first activated will say no gps device until it finds finds and locates some sats. However the gps device is not a true gps device it is an AGPS device which requires the download of data every 2 days to remain up to date. This enables it to get a lightning quick fix, however in my experience and many others it is unworkable in its curent form. I am experimenting with a bluetooth reciever instead of the internal one.
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sunny70 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 13, 2005 Posts: 2

I had bought in the USA. It did not come with TT preloaded and I had to buy. Even TT customer support dont reply to any of your questions. Yes it is true that you have to obtain fix on almost daily basis for quick GPS connection.
I am really getting frustrated...
Thanks for your help
Regards

peterc10 · Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject:

tomo1340 · Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject:

moonraker · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 05, 2005 Posts: 36

I have a 6515. It does not claim to come with a full version of TT5. It comes with a cut down version of TT which will only work with a city map that you can download for free.

The documentation points you to a site www.tomtom.com/gpsnavigation where you can purchase TT5 at a reduced price.

I have had few problems that I would attribute to the GPS receiver in the device. I have however, found that TT got behind (until I reduced the number of POIs showing on the map) and I have also had occurences where TT was trying to bring me back onto the M4 in South Wales when I was "happily" driving along it anyway.

As for downloading the files for the GPS fix, you will find that you can install a piece of software that comes on the CD in the box that adds an item into ActiveSync so that you download the GPS files over your network connection using the PC connection rather than GPRS. I tend to dock my device once a day to charge it anyway.

If however, you dock less frequently, simply enable GPRS updates for these files and you will find that they are tiny anyway.

I love the device as I pick up all my email on it (work and personal) and it gets me where I need to be warning me about the cameras on the way. Oh and I can make phone calls too Wink

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tomo1340 · Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject:

Don't get me wrong, I love the 6515 but I am hacked off that the GPS receiver just isn't up to the job. I have tried running TTN5 with no pois whatsoever, I am using a bluetooth receiver for it now and it is excellent.
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converse · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 10, 2005 Posts: 14

Bit disappointed to read this, I've just brought the hw6515 for what I thought was an excellent price from John Lewis at £339 in VAT (100 quid cheaper than most online reputable stores).

One of my primary reasons for upgrading from my ancient PDA was to get a modern PDA with mini keyboard (handwriting recog is useless in meetings I find), and crucially GPS built-in, plus the phone will be a bonus when I'm away but probably won't use that facility much.

I've read the update for the "fast connection" to sats and this is included in the pack, and it does suggest you need to update it every few days, however the manual also says it will work without these constant updates, but may take 5 mins to lock onto a signal... is this true in the real world.

It does come with a free "one city" map with tomtom and once downloaded this provides a voucher to enable to you download the full UK streets for 110 euros or complete Western Europe for 129 euros (I assume the full UK is in the W.Europe, so surely that is a better deal if you travel?) I assume with this paid upgrade you get full TomTom5 too?

Haven't unpacked or tried it all yet anyway, is it really that bad, should I return it before I start to use it?!

tomo1340 · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject:

The only let down is the GPS, but some people report no problems with it. Mine improved after a hard reset but was not up to standard.

I'd say give it a whirl.
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Flashyphotos · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject:

converse · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 10, 2005 Posts: 14

So if I do find the same problems (so disappointed really thought this was the all-in-one solution after reading a review in PC Pro magazing recently), which Bluetooth receiver is best, and do I have to disable the internal GPS unit?

Sorry such basic questions, total GPS novice!

(Assuming then I could also add a bluetooth card to my older PDA and use it with that if I found it responded better too)

Flashyphotos · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject:

Hi

The HW6515 seems to work fine with any BT GPS, I am using a cheap Kirrio unit and the improvement over the internal antenna is stunning,

If you are running TT5 on the HW6515 you will have to select Reset Factory settings, from there you can select the BT Reciever,

There has been lots of discussion on the failings of the HW6515 GPS on DavesIpaq site. It seems that at a steady speed it performs fine, but just suffers massive lag when making changes of speed or direction (Lets face it thats when you need accuarcy).

Also using a BT unit means you are no longer reliant on the QGPS programme for storing the Postion data to get a fix. Many people have reported Time to Fix of over 20mins once the QGPS data is out of date!

All I would say is try it first using the internal antenna, then beg or borrow a BT unit and see the difference,

HP don't seem interested in a fix at all, and there seems a lot of appathy from users, those who know GPS know that the performace is unacceptable, but some users seem to just accept the performance as its a built in unit, and they think 2nd class performance is acceptable! Sorry at £400 it should work properly!!

Richard

converse · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 10, 2005 Posts: 14

I'm thinking of getting a refund on the 6515 and swapping it for a Dell Axim X51, far more power, and even if I add the full Tom Tom and BT receiver it'll cost less or the same, and crucially work. I'm so unimpressed by HP and the GPS Sad

converse · Occasional Visitor Joined: Nov 10, 2005 Posts: 14

Just a quick update to everyone who's been so helpful!

It's all gone back, as the only reason I'd brought it and scarificed having a smaller screen was the built-in GPS, and the turned out to be useless, I received a full refund.

I'm not probably going to get an Dell Axim X51, but only when TomTom make the v5 software compatible with Windows Mobile 5. THe X51 has a 640x480 high res screen and it's a least twice as fast as the hw 6515, and has WiFi and bluetooth (but no phone, but if needs my Sony can talk to it via bluetooth).

Thanks all for the advice and saving me from a costly purchasing mistake!

If I'm then looking for a Bluetooth GPS receiver to go with a new PDA, is the TomTom bluetooth kit the best or are there other brands I should review, such as Kirrio as Richard mentioned? Now I have time and the money back I can look into it and hopefully get the best one this time!

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